Dr. Joel Brenner, National Counterintelligence Executive, Interviewed on CBS News’ “Sunday Morning”

 

 

 

 

 

        

 

 

 
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 About Dr. Joel Brenner

On 7 August 2006, the Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte appointed Joel F. Brenner to serve as the National Counterintelligence Executive and Mission Manager for Counterintelligence.

In this capacity, Dr. Brenner will play a central role in identifying the key strategic CI threats; evaluating those threats; and coordinating our efforts to predict, penetrate, and preempt intelligence activities directed against US national security. As the Mission Manager for Counterintelligence, Dr. Brenner will work closely with key agencies and departments to meet the goals of our strategic CI mission.

During 2002-06, Dr. Brenner served as the Inspector General of the National Security Agency (NSA), where he managed a large staff of auditors, investigators, and inspectors that was responsible for examining all aspects of NSA’s signals intelligence and information-assurance missions. Prior to his service with NSA, Dr. Brenner was an attorney at the Department of Justice and in private practice, where his diverse practice included securities regulation, antitrust, and a wide ariety of civil and criminal trial work.

He is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin (B.A.), the London School of Economics (Ph.D.), and Harvard Law School (J.D.) and was a Marshall Scholar. 

 

Interview of Dr. Joel Brenner

National Counterintelligence Executive

With Rita Braver . CBS News Sunday Morning

January 18, 2009

Transcript . As Aired

MR. CHARLES OSGOOD (CBS NEWS): As most of Washington prepares to greet the new

President, there are people in this city who are hard at work drawing up plans for the worst-case

scenario. Rita Braver looks over their shoulders.

MS. RITA BRAVER (CBS NEWS): Their photo ops may be all smiles, but both men are deeply

aware of the chilling possibility that looms over the transition of power from President Bush to

President Obama.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: The most urgent threat that he’ll have to deal with, and other

Presidents after him will have to deal with, is an attack on our homeland.

MS. BRAVER: Which is why the Bush Administration has been preparing an unprecedented set

of scenarios for a dark day that could come to the next White House.

MR. JOSH BOLTEN: In the post 9/11 world, this isn’t just good mannered/good government. It’s

a national security responsibility.

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MS BRAVER: The Bush White House has laid out another key scenario too. One that many

intelligence experts believe needs immediate attention from the new President’s team. A cyber

attack launched from overseas to disrupt critical computer systems. Joel Brenner is the

government’s top cyber security official. Why is it so important for the administration to be up to

speed on this from day one?

DR. JOEL BRENNER: Because we’re electronically undressed. Everything we do is done on

electronic network. All the information that we create is created electronically.

MS. BRAVER: Brenner says it’s unlikely that anyone could disrupt top secret government

computers.

ACTOR FROM THE TV SHOW "24": People who broke through the firewall are controlling

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one of my planes.

MS. BRAVER: But as terrorists did in a recent Fox TV show.

ACTOR FROM THE TV SHOW "24": Exactly what systems are vulnerable, Doctor?

ACTOR FROM THE TV SHOW "24": The top of the list would be the national power grid.

MS. BRAVER: He believes there could be disruption of air traffic along with targeting water and

sewer systems, electricity grids and financial markets.

DR. BRENNER: If instead of attacking the Twin Towers al Qaeda had taken down a major bank,

the economic consequences would have been an order of magnitude ten times greater than the

economic consequences of 9/11. I don’t say the personal physical damage. People were killed in

9/11. But the economic damage of taking down a piece of our banking system would be

enormous and it would reverberate through the world financial system.

MS. BRAVER: All this comes after many in the Bush Administration came to believe that the

Clinton team had not raised enough red flags about potential threats. But current White House

officials insist they are not just trying to make sure that no one points a finger at them.

MR. GORDON JOHNDROE: You know, I think this is an effort to provide the incoming team

as much information as we possibly can just because the world in 2009 is so different from when

we found it in 2001. It is moving at lightning speed, and the incoming team is going to have a lot

of incoming as soon as they get to the White House on January the 20th.

MS. BRAVER: Just two days away.

January 18, 2009: Dr. Joel Brenner, National Counterintelligence Executive, Interviewed on CBS News’ "Sunday Morning"

 

 

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